Ask WoW Insider: Is PvP gear still worth it?
Here's a good question from our email (it's ask at wow.com, if you've got a question for Ask WoW Insider). It's about PvP gear, and what to do about it in the few weeks left until the Wrath launch. We know now that Honor and marks are not getting wiped for sure, so Treecow wants to know what to do:My question is this, now that Wrath will be out in 6 weeks or so, does it really pay to get the S2 gear? Is it worth getting, even if it's going to be replaced within the first couple levels in Northrend, just to make those couple of levels easier? Or should I keep running quests and dailies? Or is there something else I should be doing that I haven't even thought about?
Thanks,
Treecow
70 Druid on Thrall
If you ask me, dailies are the way to go at this point (and if you haven't gotten your rep up in some factions, dailies should help there, too), simply because gear will get quickly replaced and gold will always be useful. Not to mention that there are battleground dailies to do every day if BGs are what you'd rather play.
But on the other hand, I'm mostly a PvE-er, and who knows -- doing the PvP to buy PvP gear could be worth it in the long run. You might even get more gold out of selling items you'd normally be equipping in Wrath. Readers, what do you say to Treecow?
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Amaxe Oct 6th 2008 7:12PM
I did my PvP gear largely to get ahead where they were superior to where my guild was raiding. Probably will be obsolete before T6 is, but if it is good to get a head start, that's what I expected.
rick gregory Oct 6th 2008 7:26PM
is it good... for what? For leveling? No. Just get blues in TBC and grab quest rewards in Northrend. If you're in PvE epics you won't find upgradse until 72 or beyond anyway.
For PvP? well yes, if you're going to PvP on the way to 80. If not, just get the level 80 PvP gear.
here's a radical thought... you could BG for... fun!
caronome Oct 7th 2008 1:21AM
Wow, that is an extremely radical thought! Doing BGs to get some welfare epics to use until you can get some good gear is quite conventional thinking. The concept of enjoying them? - just too radical
Eliseth Oct 7th 2008 12:29AM
Also if you're going to be leveling on a PvP server, it might be handy to have some relatively beefy armor to do it in. Survivability in quest rewards/greens is pretty low, especially for wimpy clothies like my priest.
dpoyesac Oct 7th 2008 11:46AM
I second Eliseth's comment -- making sure you have a bit of resilience as you level up on a PvP server is a good idea. Otherwise you won't see any of this important (tho annoying) anti-insta-gib stat until the crafted PvP gear at level 78.
Sinystra Oct 7th 2008 12:17PM
I gotta admit... I've been PVPing in the PTR and it's been AWESOME!
Not once have I seen a "noob... get back on the flag" or "why isnt everyone rushing RH"
Even in games where the horde are out numbered 3 to 1, it seems like everyone is just having fun trying out their new talents.
And even as a mage... I don't mind dieing as much!
Shevaresh Oct 6th 2008 7:38PM
Personally, I'm finding that I'm having a lot of fun in BG's lately - not sure why. But that's neither here nor there.
Most of the PvP gear will probably go by the wayside fairly quickly in Wrath - but not all. My main is a lock, so I'm not certain about the other classes - but the Guardian's Necklace at least will be superior or comparable to most gear you will be getting for a while.
Note: My lock is geared in primarily T5/Badge gear, with some Hyjal/BT drops. In the beta, I'm teamed with a similarly geared spriest tearing mobs apart in the Basin - while still only level 70. So far, my only main character death since starting the beta (maybe 3 hours play time, due to RL constraints) was due to a *4* pull in a 75 zone. [I've spent more time on a DK, they're fun.]
Tullivia Oct 7th 2008 12:35PM
Someone call Blizzard, quick!
BGs are fun? We can't have this! No! They must be work! They must be boring! They must be endless dying-fests! They must include no less than 3 people yelling at others and saying how this BG sucks and how everyone should just quit the game because of how bad they are!
Rabble! Rabble rabble rabble!
Unsavory Oct 6th 2008 7:43PM
I'll probably keep my S2 gear for looks... mostly because warrior S2 looks too awesome to throw out.
Jewbanks Oct 6th 2008 7:46PM
If you dont have better gear s2 wont do you badly for leveling... but you could also just stack honor for wotlk
Im in beta and while mage is questing faster in t5/t6 gear my rogue whos mostly in blue with some kara drops and a green or two is having no problems
Seedcake Oct 7th 2008 4:42AM
Same here. I love the way the priest S2 gear looks! Just 4k more honor until I can pick up the last piece I need...and then I've decided I'm done with BGs for good.
I've never been a true PvPer at heart, but BGs have been my only option for better-than-quest-gear for a long time now, and now I'm just sick to death of them. :(
Hopefully I can find a raiding guild I can tolerate (I cling to the impossible dream of being a part of a helpful, active, progressing guild which is free of jerks, immaturity and drama)...or at the least, find one or a few nice people to Arena (badly) with me in the near future.
kris Nov 14th 2008 12:25PM
lol warrior s2 is the worst, especially that god-awful helm
Baluki Oct 6th 2008 7:47PM
Man, I'm so tired of people asking "is it worth it to do X?"
If you think something is fun, do it. If it isn't, don't. This is a game; don't forget that.
Zep Oct 6th 2008 7:47PM
Psh, I make 1500 whenever I feel like it off of Shartuul's badges of tenacity xDDD
Gear though, that you can't buy... and it's still a couple months till the Day.
Fobok Oct 6th 2008 7:52PM
I have two pieces of S2 gear, and one I only got because I expected there to be an honour wipe. Really, I know it'll be replaced anyway, at the very least as soon as I can get someone to craft me the blue PVP craftable gear. So, nothing really to worry about.
Though, with the concern of the lack of intellect on early Hunter gear in the expansion, I might just try for a third piece to just keep myself in intellect.
Tinwhisker Oct 6th 2008 8:02PM
PvE gear will last quite a bit longer than PvP gear of similar ilevel when leveling.
Certainly you can get a bit of a boost when it comes to crit and stamina from the PvP gear and that will help some with leveling but PvP gear is poorly itemized for leveling and when you do reach 80 the level 70 PvP gear will be useless for PvP.
If Blizz was still resetting honor with WotLK I'd say spend away but for now I'd just plan to level with whatever PvE gear you have and save the honor for later.
Atortanks Oct 6th 2008 8:07PM
Gold. Farm gold, lots of it.
Amaxe Oct 6th 2008 8:13PM
/agree
Rob Oct 6th 2008 8:11PM
Agreed with what others say. Do it for fun. For PVE you can get fine gear as soon as you enter wraith. Don't expect honor points to be worth anything at level 80. My expectation is that the level 80 gear will be 4x more expensive, and you accumulate honor 4x as fast at 80 vs 70. So basically its not practical to grind BGs now for level 80 gear. As for leveling, you can do it in grays or stark naked.
It wouldn't be a bad thought to just go to the AH and see what people have made or found in Northend a few weeks after wraith hits as a good way to gear up, if you plan on waiting a few weeks like I am.
Swordfighter Oct 6th 2008 8:56PM
If you are a hardcore PvP'er like I am. All you should be thinking about is how to get to lvl 80 before everyone else. As WoW reley heavy on gear and PvP is based on that concept it will be a smart idea to get the best gear you can get before the expansion comes out (which you should leave room to start building up your honor for lvl 80 pvp gear) to make it possible for you to lvl your character as fast as possible. If you are one of the first personal to get the new gear you can get a BIG headstart on people in arena and killing your opposite side to rub it in their face. Which I love doing to alliance FOR THE HORDE!!