Find popular builds with TalentChic
The site makes use of Armory data, so it stays relatively up-to-date. Builds are organized by class and by primary tree, and you can also filter for playstyle (Raid/PvP for instance). Playstyle is determined by what kind of gear the player was raiding when their data was cached, so it's not foolproof (a raider could have been wearing their PvP gear and thus counted as PvP), but it's about as good as can be done with Armory data.
As far as the information displayed goes, it seems reasonable to me. I'm a little surprised that Combat is still so dominant with Rogues, given that I've heard Mutilate got significantly buffed. And I'm very surprised that 0/61/0 is the most popular Holy Priest build; I haven't seen people talk about that one very much, and I certainly wouldn't want to be without Meditation. It does drop to only second most popular if I look at raiding Holy Priests. Are your own talent builds popular? Does TalentChic give you any ideas on how to spec?
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
John Oct 19th 2008 7:19PM
Well this dont seem very up to date (3.0.2) since no sane firemage would ever go 2/48/11 after the patch
Damntheman Oct 19th 2008 7:50PM
Why do people find it so hard to choose decent talents. As long as you can make some kind of reasonable estimates about how much you using a given spell. Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised when [url=http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/19/divine-providence-not-worthless-after-all/]wowinsider's colomnists can't do it[/url].
Ekimus Oct 20th 2008 9:09AM
This is primarily for the min/maxers out there. Also, it's always good to have a decent starting point from which to work.
Lannicbane Oct 20th 2008 7:12PM
I agree with John, and not just for mages. I looked at lots of the most popular builds according to TalentChic. They are very bottom heavy as people are trying out all the new talents at the end of the trees. As it gets closer to Wrath, a lot of these specs will fall away. Keep in mind, we are living in paradise right now with nerfed instances and awesome new talents. Everything is very easy. My guild has skipped t5 and is downing bosses in Black Temple and Mount Hyjal. As we level up in Wrath, start to hit progression raids, get new pvp and arena experiences, and the theorycrafters compute every little talent point to dps/heal/etc ratio, we will start to see the most viable specs rise to the surface.
Asahunt Oct 19th 2008 8:48PM
Well it's only been collecting data from really "well-off" level 70's. Ergo, there won't be any real leveling info, as well as any go-to information because of the relatively small sample size. With [short?] time though, there should be a more valid sample, and when Wrath hits, they'll be collecting leveling builds from everybody.
I for one, am extremely excited about this site.
Ken Oct 19th 2008 8:59PM
Plus I think the armory is busted. Most of my toons have been showing as "Untalented" for days even though they have spent the talent points.
Lemons Oct 19th 2008 9:37PM
Don't trust that site, it's filters are dumb. I wanted to find the most popular rogue build for pvp and it gives me a combat build that takes imp slice and dice, and doesn't take nerves of steel (basically a raiding build)?
Brennith Oct 19th 2008 9:42PM
The links to talent calculators don't always work. Some do, some don't. I was looking at arcane mages, and the "build 1" link worked great, but the arcane/frost ones didn't.
The Claw Oct 19th 2008 10:03PM
Mutilate might have been significantly buffed, but if you've got two good swords/maces/fists and no good daggers, you're not going to switch from Combat to try it. That's the boat I'm in and I'm sure I'm not alone.
And anyway, it's not as if Combat DIDN'T get significantly buffed also..
Nick S Oct 20th 2008 12:15AM
I think this is why a lot of Rogues are still combat. Our Rogues are just now starting to roll on daggers that went to Hunters or got sharded in the past.
Cat Oct 20th 2008 4:53AM
Yup this is the answer. Mutilate/Hunger For Blood is dagger-centric, and most raiding rogues have themselves set up with swords or fists.
You'll see the assassination tree start to blossom around xmas when the raiding population builds up at 80.
Evan Oct 19th 2008 10:08PM
wow that number 1 fire mage build 2/48/11 is just reject build after the patch the mages using that number 1 spec should delete their mage and let the full 0/61/0 spec mages come in
RoundDisc Oct 19th 2008 10:16PM
Cool, but you cant actually view the builds! just thier numbers! wtf?
Plastic Rat Oct 19th 2008 10:40PM
Click on the wowhead or WoW talent calculator icons under the 'Show' column.
Plastic Rat Oct 19th 2008 10:36PM
Maybe it's not the site's filters that are dumb, but the fact that it's based on 'majority'. The majority of people are dumb, so don't be surprised when the majority of builds are dumb.
Have to say the site is really interesting, but the thing I find weird is that all the popular cookie cutter builds are always the most boring.
I mean sure, try and be as effective as you can, but does anyone still play the game for fun?
aellas Oct 20th 2008 7:18AM
I find it fun to be effective, personally.
Doujhe Oct 19th 2008 10:55PM
I always use WoWWiki. And most, if not all seem to have had some 3.x builds added.
For instance:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin_build_samples
http://www.wowwiki.com/Warlock_builds
http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter_builds
Feinel Oct 20th 2008 1:28AM
Wow, people still cant decide for themselves what's best? -_-
Bezulba Oct 20th 2008 10:19AM
Not all of us want to number crunch if 5% dmg increase of ability X is better then a 3% increase in crit for all abilities or stuff like that. Especially since there are so many talents available now that you can't just take everything some just want the spec that gives them the most DPS
shinken Oct 20th 2008 2:39AM
Wow.... it's scary how many horrible 0/61/0 specs there are. A feral druid without omen?